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1. I’ve been thinking about the claim in last week’s Pacific Standard piece that Evergreen student protesters have “struggled to get their stories out”.
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2. This thread is a follow up to a fact checking thread I started last Thursday & finished on Saturday. It’s going to be really long. Will put it on Thread Reader after I’m done.
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3. Although I find the protesters’ narrative myopic, misleading, often hyperbolic, & sometimes outright false (based on my close study of the Evergreen meltdown & private conversations w/ Greeners), I thought I’d pull together a list of media appearances.

4. While it’s certainly true that @BretWeinstein has gotten -far- more press than the protesters have, part of that relates to his willingness to accept interviews and deal with any fallout.

@BretWeinstein 5. Additionally, this is just how the world works. When working on higher ed stories, the media will typically choose to talk to administrators, faculty, and staff over students.

@BretWeinstein 6. Many of the protesters likely aren’t interested in talking to the media if they don’t share their precise political views or aren’t the right race.

@BretWeinstein 7. Student protesters, staff, faculty, & administrators have stated in numerous interviews that they have received a tremendous amount of harassment since @BretWeinstein went on Fox News and that WOC are receiving the worst of it.
thestranger.com/news/2017/06/1…

@BretWeinstein 8. There is often deep distrust of the mainstream media in black & Latino communities who feel that white-dominated media outlets don’t portray them fairly and will not tell their stories accurately.
nbcnews.com/news/latino/la…
medium.com/trust-media-an…
mediamatters.org/people/michael…

@BretWeinstein 9. In fall 2015, Concerned Student 1950 @ Mizzou eschewed mainstream media in favor of social media to get their message out. They, like many protest groups, preferred to control the narrative in this manner.

@BretWeinstein 10. Mizzou professor Melissa Click, who was involved in a human chain protecting protesters, was infamously caught on camera by a white independent student journalist calling for “muscle” to remove him...

@BretWeinstein 11. ... after he captured a mob of students, faculty, and an administrator surrounding, pushing, & yelling at Asian American student photojournalist Tim Tai who was there on assignment for ESPN. stltoday.com/news/local/cri…

@BretWeinstein 12. Listen to the back and forth. Both white and POC students are suspicious of Tai. The core protesters were camping out on a public quad at a state university. Faculty, staff, and an administrator were also involved in protecting students from media.

@BretWeinstein 13. Evergreen alum @BenjaminABoyce told me he’s reached out to some of the protesters but they haven’t responded to his offer to have a conversation on his YouTube channel. He’s genuinely interested in talking to them but they likely think he’s part of the alt-right. (He’s not.)

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 14. Protesters also turned down interviews with @kittypurrzog who was working on a 5/23/18 piece for Seattle’s alternative biweekly @thestranger. The few who spoke with her would only do so on condition of anonymity.
thestranger.com/features/2018/…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 15. We have no idea how many other media interviews they have turned down. What the protesters seem to want is either the complete silencing of @BretWeinstein, which is never going to happen now that he’s a public figure, or equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity.

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 16. List of media appearances for both protesters & non-protester students follows. More analysis at end of thread.

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@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 17. While I think the protesters are talking about access to local/national media, it’s important to note that the coverage of the 2016-2017 protests by Cooper Point Journal, the student newspaper, was highly biased in their favor.
cooperpointjournal.com

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 18. There was no balance, no dissenting views, in CPJ’s opinion pages and they made errors in their news reporting. CPJ staff included a number of protesters and others were interviewed.

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 19. Jacqueline Littleton, the only student quoted in the Pacific Standard piece, "who identifies as black but is also of Malaysian, Indian, and white descent” (per KNKX - tweet #21) has been by far the most vocal protester. A list of her pieces & media interviews below.

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 20. A 5/29/17 piece Littleton wrote on her blog was republished by Cooper Point Journal on 5/31/17.
medium.com/@princessofthe…
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cooperpointjournal.com/2017/05/31/the…
archive.is/91VEe

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 21. 6/9/17 - @knkxfm, public radio out of Tacoma, WA, aired a segment in which they interviewed protesters Littleton & Georgie Hicks (Community Editor of Cooper Point Journal) & non-protesters. (Note that segment has more detail than article.)

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@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 22. 6/16/17 - @nytopinion published an op-ed from Littleton in their On Campus Opinion section.
nytimes.com/2017/06/16/opi…
archive.is/HNKvS

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 23. A trio of Evergreen faculty cited Littleton’s NYT op-ed in a 8/11/17 piece for @HuffPost & a similar piece on 10/9/17 in @theolympian.
huffingtonpost.com/entry/evergree…
archive.is/wC3lJ

theolympian.com/opinion/op-ed/…
archive.is/ABWux

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce 24. 10/27/17 - Littleton was the only student interviewed for a detailed longform paywalled piece in @chronicle. They also interviewed @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying, President George Bridges and several other faculty, staff, & administrators.
chronicle.com/article/A-Radi…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 25. Littleton’s NYT piece has been widely cited in other articles and blog posts and shared extensively on social media.

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 26. 6/16/17 - @VICE aired a segment in which they interviewed @BretWeinstein, George Bridges, protesters (individual & group interviews), & one of Bret’s students.

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@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 27. Note that the protesters in the @VICE segment are the same 8 students from the “clearly staged” baseball bat photo that @BretWeinstein tweeted on 6/5/17. They are wearing the same outfits as in the photo.
thecollegefix.com/post/33027/

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying @VICE 28. @VICE actually let a student say that @BretWeinstein “incited white supremacists and he has validated white supremacists and Nazis” and that they want Bret to be fired. Bret is Jewish.

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@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 29. 6/20/17 - Two students spoke with a reporter from @theolympian outside the WA Senate Law and Justice Committee Work Session where President George Bridges & others had been invited to speak.
theolympian.com/news/local/art…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 30. They were unhappy they had not been invited. One student, named as Vee Ramsay, also spoke at the 7/12/17 Board of Trustees meeting named there as Vanlyn Ramsay.
Watch @ 25:02: tvw.org/watch/?eventID…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 31. Ramsay was a member of the Equity Council which produced the ill-defined 2016-2017 Strategic Equity Plan that @BretWeinstein expressed concerns about. Part of her statement was included in @Mynorthwest’s 7/13/17 article.
mynorthwest.com/690755/evergre…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 32. 1/7/18 - PBS @NewsHour aired a segment in which they interviewed @BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying, Rashida Love, & POC students including one of Bret & Heather's students.

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@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 33. Juan Carlos Ruiz Durán, a member of the Equity Council, is identified as a “student activist” but didn’t protest. He was also interviewed by @BenjaminABoyce (see tweet #57). Worth watching. Unclear if the others protested.

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 34. 5/17/18 - @theolympian spoke to 4 students about Evergreen’s administration’s decision to cancel 2018 Day of Absence. Two were opposed. Unclear if these students had protested. theolympian.com/news/local/edu…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 35. 5/22/18 - @JillianKayM interviewed a protester who had assault charges filed against her by another student. She was granted anonymity. Non-protester students & an alum were also interviewed as were @BretWeinstein & @HeatherEHyeing.
wsj.com/podcasts/how-e…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 36. The protesters appear to think the reason they’re not getting more media attention is because the media is racist but white faculty member Mike Paros, the only one to publicly support @BretWeinstein at time of protests, has had difficulty getting some of his pieces published.

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 37. @HdxAcademy, which Paros is a member of, published an email he sent to his colleagues, after he was unable to get it published in mainstream media.
heterodoxacademy.org/a-second-everg…

@BretWeinstein @BenjaminABoyce @HeatherEHeying 38. In a recent article on the Independent External Review Panel process, @asabes10 quoted from an unpublished Paros op-ed that he’d also been unable to get published in other outlets. Excerpts were included in article but it was not published in full.
campusreform.org/?ID=10965

39. The students who have gotten the least coverage in mainstream media, the silent majority, are those who opposed the protests, support equity but didn’t approve of the protesters’ tactics, or took a more nuanced view of 2016-2017 campus events. Some in stories ⬆️, more below

40. Don’t know if this is because these students have largely not sought media attention for fear of social repercussions on campus or if they’re turning down offers to talk to the media because they don’t want attention. Most likely the former is a major factor in their silence.

41. Concerned students wrote an open letter in June 2017 which they published online. The original pdf has been removed but @theolympian wrote about it and it is archived. Letter signed by @BenjaminABoyce, Steve Coffman, others.
archive.is/530SG
theolympian.com/news/local/edu…

@BenjaminABoyce 42. Justin Puckett, who had then just been appointed to the Board of Trustees as a student rep, was interviewed by @theolympian in their coverage of the letter, although he did not sign.
theolympian.com/news/local/edu…
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@BenjaminABoyce 43. Puckett was also interviewed by @knkxfm (see tweet #21), @NewsHour (see tweet #32), and @kittypurrzog for her 5/23/18 @thestranger piece…

@BenjaminABoyce 44. ...as were Odette Finn, a former student of @BretWeinstein & @HeatherEHeying’s, and Kai-Avé Douvia, who was targeted by protesters before the May 23-24 protests.
thestranger.com/features/2018/…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 45. Douvia’s altercation with the protesters is claimed in the Pacific Standard piece to be the impetus for the protests, not @BretWeinstein.

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@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 46. Douvia was also interviewed by @knkxfm (see tweet #21).

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 47. @VICE also interviewed Kirstin, one of @BretWeinstein’s students.
news.vice.com/en_us/article/…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 48. 7/7/17 - Steve Coffman, one of the many non-traditional students at Evergreen, wrote about the protests and his view that Evergreen is not a racist campus.
thecollegefix.com/post/33084/

Following his guest post, Coffman covered Evergreen for @CollegeFix.
thecollegefix.com/post/author/st…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 49. Coffman also spoke at the 7/12/17 Board of Trustees meeting. Part of his statement was included in @Mynorthwest’s 7/13/17 article (misspelled as Kaufmann).
mynorthwest.com/690755/evergre…
Watch @ 15:37: tvw.org/watch/?eventID…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 50. @BenjaminABoyce is the only Greener who has covered events at Evergreen prolifically on his YouTube channel under the hashtag #ExposéEvergreen, a play on the protesters’ use of #ExposeEvergreen.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 51. @BenjaminABoyce was a non-traditional student in his final year at Evergreen during the 2016-2017 year of protests and began his coverage/commentary on 6/10/17. The project is ongoing and he is working on a documentary.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 52. @BenjaminABoyce has released edited interviews with 5 students. He has subsequently released full interviews with 2 of them. Some of the students had been targeted by protesters, one was sympathetic, another was a self-described activist with a more nuanced view.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 53. 7/16/17 - @BenjaminABoyce released an edited interview with McKenzie Kyger who spoke at the 7/12/17 Board of Trustees meeting. She is a former student of Mike Paros’s.
Watch @ 17:20: tvw.org/watch/?eventID…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 54. Part of Kyger’s statement was included in @Mynorthwest’s 7/13/17 article (misspelled as Mackenzie Kiger).
mynorthwest.com/690755/evergre…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 55. 7/29/18 - @BenjaminABoyce included excerpts from an interview with Kai-Avé Douvia in his coverage of the altercation between Douvia and protesters prior to the protests.


3/29/18 - Full interview released.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 56. 8/11/17 - @BenjaminABoyce released an edited interview with Jackson Taylor recorded on 8/7/17.

1/13/17 - Full interview released.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 57. 8/15/17 - @BenjaminABoyce released an edited interview with Juan Carlos Ruiz Durán who was also interviewed by @NewsHour (see tweet #32).

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 58. 3/16/18 - @BenjaminABoyce released a full interview with Nolan Lies who, along w/ his friend AC, were assaulted by protesters in some altercations following the protests. Nolan was also interviewed by @JillianKayM for WSJ podcast (see tweet #35).

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@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 59. Evergreen’s administration has sent mixed messages regarding campus safety and policing. Their official position has in some ways mirrored the protesters’ narrative that @BretWeinstein + media were first to make campus unsafe.
seattletimes.com/opinion/the-ev…
archive.is/ddyFw

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 60. This was also included on p.7 of the 4/1/18 Report of The Independent Review Panel.
campusreform.org/?ID=10965
evergreen.edu/trustees/repor…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 61. But despite protester demands that Police Services be disarmed or disbanded, the administration has actually requested more funds for campus police from the WA State Senate.
cooperpointjournal.com/2017/05/27/com…
archive.is/hWSor
theolympian.com/news/local/art…
archive.is/WlXin

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 62. This is presumably because the administration recognized how unprepared they were last year. They’re a remote campus with a population of ~5,000 (though many students are commuters) & a police force of 12 (1 chief, 2 sergeants, 4 officers, 5 staff).
evergreen.edu/policeservices…

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 63. Evergreen’s Electronic Media department which provides AV services to the campus, has developed a new policy that should students disrupt an event to stage a protest, staff should pause recording,...

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 64. ...which will in effect protect protesters by not recording any possibly illegal activity and protect the college by preventing more Evergreen protest footage from going viral.
cooperpointjournal.com/2017/10/09/que…
archive.is/gNKy2

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 65. So has @BretWeinstein gotten more press than the protesters?

By name, yes. No individual protester has received more press than he has. But every time his story is told, some version of their story is also told.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 66. All TV outlets use clips from protester footage and radio/podcasts often use audio clips. The protesters often say these clips are used out of context.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 67. Did going on Fox News raise @BretWeinstein’s stature?

Depends on who you ask. To some ppl he’s a Nazi collaborator. Others have embraced him & @HeatherEHeying as leading members of the nonpartisan “Intellectual Dark Web” mvmt.
nytimes.com/2018/05/08/opi…
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@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 68. Have the protesters “struggled” to get their message out?

I would say that if you’re receiving coverage in @nytopinion @VICE @NewsHour @chronicle + coverage in most of your local media outlets then you’re actually getting more press than most activists groups can hope for.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 69. The public has access to hours of protest footage. They have access to @BretWeinstein’s email questioning the new Day of Absence format. They have access to him on Twitter. Most people see a calm, reasonable, rational professor, not a racist, white supremacist, bigot.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 70. I think the “struggle” that protesters are having is that the public has largely rejected their narrative. They lost the public relations battle before they knew it had even begun when they uploaded their footage.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 71. If anyone remembers other pieces/segments where protesters or other students were interviewed, please let me know and I’ll add them to this thread. I put this together from memory and some searches. Thanks for reading.

@BenjaminABoyce @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying 72. I’d also like to reiterate my desire that no one use this thread to harass anyone at Evergreen. Harassment doesn’t change minds.

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