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@anna_carlile 1/ Those are all topics that deserve research - indeed far more than most topics "leading researchers" like Zucker have wasted years on (eg "Are AMAB girls more attractive than male peers"), but there are several others too, that medics, especially, have neglected for too long…
@anna_carlile 2/ such as:-
a) What Tanner stage of "male puberty" needs to be avoided to prevent hands & feet exceeding normal women's sizes, in those so predisposed?
b) Is there an intervention could stop the "female" restriction of height in AFAB boys?
@anna_carlile 3/
c) Practiced ears can diagnose male Tanner 2 from voice changes. Does that reverse if agonists or hormones are started before Tanner 3, or should, in the very clear cases where "desistance" never occurs (eg 📽️), Tanner 2 be avoided too?
@anna_carlile 4/
d) Thousands in 🇵🇰🇮🇳🇧🇩🇹🇭🇳🇵🇲🇲, over centuries, had "nirvan" at 10yo+ 📽️, to prevent male puberty & remove the incompatible parts. While many are still alive we should document why they did that, & how they have fared medically
@anna_carlile 5/
e) 1000s, in many countries, use over-the-counter HRT (usually The Pill) at 12yo or so 📽️, at their own volition, to switch to "female" puberty. Before haters & medical authorities move to block that, is it not beneficial? Has there been ANY downside?
@anna_carlile 6/
f) In 🇹🇭, where Buddhist culture has long taught those "born in the wrong body" be treated kindly, all schools have several "feminine boy" pupils, many of whom are trans 📽️. What light do those statistics throw upon referral numbers at western GICs?
@anna_carlile 7/
g) Many trans people who emerge as their real gender as children wish to only be seen & known as that gender (ie as #StealthTrans, lacking a better term). What administrative barriers are placed in their way to that in the UK, are they due to ignorance, prejudice or policy?
@anna_carlile 8/
h) Many trans girls get #PubertyWithPeers, going straight to hormones before or at Tanner2 📽️, avoiding the need for agonists. That needs studying whilst protecting their privacy & that of their doctors who are afraid of haters & prejudiced peers
@anna_carlile 9/
i) Many trans girls wish to be same height as peers, their sisters or mothers (which has long been arranged in intersex girls needing exogenous hormones), whilst others wish to be as tall as possible. Can that choice be provided, if it is an informed decision?
@anna_carlile 10/ Apologies for 📽️s in French, but English language reporters have some blind-spots on trans children. The 13yo in (5) has been on The Pill for a month & is at the school in (6) in rural NE 🇹🇭, where 11 of 1300 pupils were happy to put up their hands on 📺 to wanting #SRS
@anna_carlile 11/ All school, & most university students, & government employees in 🇹🇭 are required to wear uniform & hair, & have names according to gender assigned at birth (not exactly a kind policy), but make-up is allowed. No #GenderRecognition is possible 📽️
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@TeamGender @FierceMum @MavenOfMayhem 1/ Obviously the research is still used as a reason to delay affirming children as their real gender, so it is highly relevant. Children weren't treated as purely binary back then either; but to provide agonists/hormones, or not is a binary decision.
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