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Some ppl asking, “What happens if parliament votes to reject Brexit deal but Article 50 window almost closed?” Here’s my view...1/
Govt falls. New govt must go back & ask for better deal. EU refuses unless UK willing to offer additional concessions on its “red lines”. 2/
Govt goes back to parliament & says, “This is best deal available unless we are more flexible. Over to you, sovereign parliament...” 3/
By this time, public opinion has swung further against Brexit (say, 60/40- extrapolation of what’s happened since 2016 as reality hits). 4/
Parl must choose between a) crash out b) accept shitty deal or c) instruct govt to revoke Art50 [fudge: presented domestically as pause]. 5/
Only option (c) stands any chance of getting a parliamentary majority [of course, both CON & LAB will split, but Tories worse]. 6/
Some former Brexiters will pivot by claiming to be supporting (c) with heavy heart & only cos “pause for reflection” not abandonment. 7/
Corbyn’s LAB will of course be sorely tempted to trigger an election but may be persuaded to back off this for a time-limited period if...8/
...if by doing so it can avoid picking up either of the twin hot potatoes of Brexit (seeing it through or killing it). In these circs... 9/
LAB may well choose to participate in (or prop up) some kind of time-limited de facto govt of national unity to deal with big emergency. 10/
So UK govt swallows its pride & decides it wants to abandon Brexit. How does EU react? Does it dispute revocability of Art50? 11/
Will ultimately be a political decision. I suspect there’d initially be a split among EU member states so hard to know how it would go. 12/
But I suspect if UK lobbies hard & gets its friends to lobby hard, it might, just might, be able to win over any hold-outs. After all... 13/
if UK is claiming a change of heart, it will be awkward PR to be isolated, camping on a legal(istic) position that A50 can’t be revoked. 14/
I’ve always believed that UK in EU is win-win: best for both *but only if (big if) UK attitude shifts to constructive participation*... 15/
if UK is going to remain obstructive, truculent then EU is better off cauterising the Brexit wound & being rid of us once & for all. 16/
So if new UK govt tests water for A50 revocation, key issue for EU will be, “Has UK had a real, big-time, change of heart about the EU?” 17/
If I were the EU side, I would see govt offer to hold #EUref2 as only way to confirm UK’s #WillOfThePeople has changed. Otherwise.... 18/
any future UK govt may start w good intent but be hamstrung at home by Leavers’ guerrilla tactics. Indisputable Remain mandate needed. 19/
If a solution of this kind were in the offing, my hunch is that EU would find will & way to “stop the A50 clock”. 20/
(I haven’t changed view that binary referendums on complex constitutional issues= abomination. But thnx to CaMoron genie out of bottle.) 21/
Politically, 50.1% wouldn’t be enough to overturn the encrusted “will of the people” bullshit accumulated since June 2016. 22/
Winning margin would have to be >52/48 to be politically solid. But poll trend suggests that’s achievable with a gutsy campaign. 23/
NB- I’m not naive. Even if we stop Brexit, the poison & polarisation it has pumped into our body politic will go on for a v long time. 24/
But that’s not an argument for passive acquiescence in something we know to be a disaster. So have to overcome this setback & rebuild. 25/

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Aug 7, 2018
THREAD: Ahead of my semi-retirement from Twitter tomorrow, I’m going to be self-indulgent & re-up some of the stuff I’m proudest of from these past 3 years. (Spoiler: nearly all about Brexit: a mix of analysis, advice & scathing, sweary invective). [1/x]
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My time on Twitter has been a journey. I started out naively arguing for what I believed in, assuming our opponents were similarly acting in good faith. I’ve learnt a lot. Along the way, I’ve had fun, made friends, & valued the sense of community here when things felt bad.
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There’s not much to say about my first 18 months on Twitter. For the first year, I was living in Japan so it was my way of feeling connected with the politics of my home country. I felt the looming EUref was big. I argued with Leavers, including Julia H-B & Louise Mensch.
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Aug 7, 2018
THREAD: Ahead of my semi-retirement from Twitter tomorrow, I’m going to be self-indulgent & re-up some of the stuff I’m proudest of from these past 3 years. (Spoiler: nearly all about Brexit: a mix of observation, analysis, advice & scathing invective). [1/x]
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My time on Twitter has been a journey. I started out naively arguing for what I believed in, assuming our opponents were similarly acting in good faith. I’ve learnt a lot. Along the way, I’ve had fun, made friends, & valued the sense of community here when things felt bad.
3/
There’s not much to say about my first 18 months on Twitter. For the first year, I was living in Japan so it was my way of feeling connected with the politics of my home country. I felt the looming EUref was big. I argued with Leavers, including Julia H-B & Louise Mensch.
Read 14 tweets
Aug 3, 2018
Announcing my Twitter semi-retirement as of 8 August. Holiday, then a demanding new job; so I’m deleting Twitter from my phone. I’ll observe/like/retweet a bit & may tweet occasionally, but after 3 years it’s time for me to cut back. Thanks & best wishes to all you lovely people!
For avoidance of doubt, my views on Brexit remain unchanged: it’s a terrible idea for all the reasons I listed in this thread back in April 2017.
Ideally, it should be stopped for the sake of the country. And if it can no longer be stopped because of the scorched-earth tactics used by the zealots who promoted it to lock in their narrow EUref victory, it should be softened a) to limit the damage & b) to teach them a lesson.
Read 5 tweets
Aug 2, 2018
Tearing my hair out at well-meaning people who keep saying Alt-Right controversialists & Brexit advocates are “stupid” because they say factually wrong, obtuse or offensive things. They are *not* stupid; they are part of a highly sophisticated network running rings around us👇
We keep making the mistake of applying our standards and our rules to them. They are NOT trying to win a fact-based argument. They are not trying to convince most people that what they’re saying is true. Here’s what they are (successfully) doing:👇
- dominating news cycle & setting theme of national conversation

- generating outrage (authoritarianism, or fascism if you prefer, thrives in a climate of anger, polarisation & shouting)

- dogwhistling to a tiny radicalised minority

- grooming another susceptible minority
Read 9 tweets
Aug 2, 2018
Big problem with BBC’s justification for giving a platform to the Alt-Shite (“we don’t agree with them but they speak for a significant minority; we must let consensus be challenged”): after EUref, BBC shut down the views of those who still thought leaving the EU was a bad idea.
BBC clearly decides that *some* views which are held by a significant minority of the population, and which challenge whatever right-thinking people have decided is the new consensus are just too inconvenient and divisive to be heard. But others are not.
I just find it a bit weird that the minority view that gets frantically shut down is the one in favour of international cooperation & upholding the (admittedly shaky) consensus of the past 40 years while the one that gets airtime is the one that rests on sowing polarisation.
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Jul 30, 2018
THREAD: We are now well & truly past the stage of Brexit where satire has any meaning. There’s nothing we can do to make Brexiters’ words & ideas more ridiculous than they already are. You simply need to quote them as they are presented in supposedly pro-Brexit newspapers. (1/x)
Take this article: “May’s ‘no-deal’ Brexit stance is kamikaze say Leavers” in the ERG fanzine formerly known as the Daily Telegraph...
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“Brexiteers had hoped that the publication next month of dozens of documents setting out Britain’s No-Deal planning would show the impact it would have on the EU as well, giving the Prime Minister leverage in the negotiations.”
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