1) GPS/Simpson Testimony
6 A. It was, broadly speaking, a kind of
7 holistic examination of Donald Trump's business
8 record and his associations, his bankruptcies, his
9 suppliers, you know, offshore or third-world
2) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p62 Simpson
10 suppliers of products that he was selling. You
11 know, it evolved somewhat quickly into issues of
12 his relationships to organized crime figures but,
13 you know, really the gamut of Donald Trump.
3) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p67 Simpson
started boning up on Donald Trump, you know, I
19 found various references to him having connections
20 to Italian organized crime and later to a Russian
21 organized crime figure named Felix Sater,
4) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p68 Simpson
As it happens, Felix Sater was, you know,
19 connected to the same Russian crime family that was
20 at issue in the Prevezon case, which is the
21 dominant Russian crime family in Russia and has a
5) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
22 robust U.S. presence and is involved in a lot of
23 crime and criminal activity in the United States
24 and for many years was the -- the leader of this
25 family was on the FBI most wanted list and lives
Page 68
6) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p69 Simpson
1 openly in Moscow as a fugitive from U.S. law for a
2 very elaborate stock fraud.
3 Q. Who is that individual and family?
4 A. The first name is Semyon, S-E-M-Y-O-N, the
5 last name is Mogilevich, M-O-G-I-L-E-V-I-C-H.
7) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p69 Simpson
6 Mogilevich is sometimes referred to as the brainy
7 Don because he runs very sophisticated schemes
8 including, according to the FBI, involving natural
9 gas pipelines in Europe, and he's wanted in
8) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p69 Simpson
10 connection with an elaborate stock fraud called YBM
11 Magnex that was took place in the Philadelphia
12 area.
13 You know, Russian organized crime is very
14 different from Italian organized crime. It's much
9) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
p69 Simpson
15 more sort of a hybrid kind of thing where they're
16 involved in politics and banking and there's even a
17 lot of connections between the mafia and the KGB or
18 the FSB and cyber crime, things that the Italians
10) #TrumpRussiaConspiracy
19 sort of never figured out.Stock fraud..
20 was the big thing in..U.S..
21all of that entered into my thinking when I
22 saw..Donald Trump was in business with Felix
23 Sater in the Trump SoHo project and..
24 other controversial condo projects.
12) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p158
it's 26 July. So by this time Debbie Wasserman
Schultz has been the subject of a very aggressive
hacking campaign, weaponized hack, the likes of
which, you know, have never really been seen.
14) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson 159
You know, after the first memo, you know,
18 Chris said he was very concerned about whether this
19 represented a national security threat and said he
20 wanted to -- he said he thought we were obligated
15) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson 159
21 to tell someone in government, in our government
22 about this information. He thought from his
23 perspective there was an issue -- a security issue
24 about whether a presidential candidate was being
25 blackmailed.
16) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p167
Did you seek anyone else's approval for
13 himtogoto the FBI?
14 A. No.
15 Q. Did anyone ever encourage you to ask him
16 on to go to the FBI?
17 A. No.
18 Q. Did anyone discourage you from having him
19 go to the FBI?
20 A. No.
17) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p169
I don't
23 remember anything specific about the issue arising
24 again other than to say generally that as the
25 summer progressed the situation with the hacking of
1 the Democrats and the efforts by the Russians to
18) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p170
2 influence the election and the possibility that the
3 Trump organization was, in fact, doing things to
4 curry favor with the Russians became more and more
5 serious as external developments occurred.
19) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p170
6 So, for instance, they changed the Republican
7 platform, which is addressed in here. Carter Page
8 shows up in Moscow and gives a speech. He's a
9 campaign advisor and he gives a speech about
10 dropping sanctions.
20) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p170
10 Trump continues to say
11 mysterious things about what a great guy Putin is.
21) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p171

16 Various things he had written about in his memos
17 corresponded quite closely with other events and I
18 began, you know, to view his reporting in this case
19 as, you know, really serious and really credible.
22) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p173
Q. And when you say it was obvious that there
was a crime in progress, what specifically are you
A. Espionage. They were hacking into the
computers of Democrats and think tanks. That's a
computer crime.
23) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p175
Essentially what he told me was they
3 had other intelligence about this matter from an
4 internal Trump campaign source and that -- that
5 they -- my understanding was that they believed
6 Chris at this point --
24) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p175
6 that they believed Chris's
7 information might be credible because they had
8 other intelligence that indicated the same thing
9 and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human
10 source from inside the Trump organization.
25) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p 176
There are some things
23 I know that I just don't feel comfortable sharing
24 because obviously it's been in the news a lot
25 lately that people who get in the way of the Russians tend to get hurt.
26) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p179
Chris severed his relationship with the FBI out of
concern that he didn't know what was happening
inside the FBI and there was a concern that the FBI
was being manipulated for political ends by the
Trump people
27) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p219
A. So after the election obviously we were as
5 surprised as everyone else and Chris and I were
6 mutually concerned about whether the United States
7 had just elected someone who was compromised by a
8 hostile foreign power
28) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p220
We've all worked on Russia and are very concerned
19 about kleptocracy and human rights and the police
20 state that Russia has become,in particular the
21 efforts of the Russians to corrupt and mess with
22 our political system.
29) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p229
4 I don't know the exact date that he sent the letter
5 to Congress, but this was an article specifically
6 about -- it was disclosing the existence of an FBI
7 investigation of Trump's ties to Russia, which, to
30) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson’s p229
8 my recollection, was the first time that anyone
9 reported that the FBI was looking at whether the
10 Trump campaign had ties to the Kremlin but at the
11 same time saying that they had investigated this
31) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p229
12 and not found anything, which threw cold water on
13 the whole question through the election.
32) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p240
25 A. Carter Page seemed to us to be a typical
1 person who the Russians would attempt to co-opt or
2 compromise or manipulate. He was on the younger
3 side, a little bit -- considered to be a striver
33) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p241
4 who was ambitious and not terribly savvy, and those
5 are the kind of people that the Russians tend to
6 compromise..
8 somewhat eccentric.
9 ...his
14 complaint that he'd lost money on Russian
15 investments and
34) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p241
he owned stock in Gazprom and he
16 was really mad about the sanctions..
19 skepticism in the press..
20 whether he could be linked between the Kremlin and
21 the Trump campaign because he seemed like a zero, a
22 lightweight.
35) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p257
Most importantly the allegation that we were
17 working for the Russian government then or ever is
18 simply not true...It's
19 political rhetoric to call the dossier phoney. The
20 memos are field reports of real..
36) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p257
...there's nothing
22 phoney about it. We can argue about what's prudent
23 and what's not, but it's not a fabrication.
37) #TrumpRussiaConspiracyProven
Simpson p279
MR. LEVY: It's a voluntary interview...he wants to be very careful to
protect his sources. Somebody's already been
killed as a result of the publication of this
dossier and no harm should come to anybody related
to this honest work.

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