Am at #ucu2018 which is suspended as staff have walked out - my u/s of this is that it relates to concerns over motion B19 being ruled back onto agenda (which calls for a democracy review). Offer was made to remove part of the motion which is believed to be the contentious bit >>
>> But I'm not sure if this offer was made after staff walked out. Assuming emergency talks are occurring between national officers and representatives of Unite in another room. Genuinely don't think B19 intended to have the effect of threatening staff T+Cs so hoping removal>>
>> would allay fears. We think Congress can only suspend for 30 mins so hoping to find out soon if this is the case. Hearing suggestion from impromptu (non-mic'd) congress floor that we all find a way to hear from Unite directly. Very difficult to hear much properly without mics!
>> Basically while no mics, lots of people who have stayed in the room are taking it in turns to shout as loudly as possible to speak about what's going on. I am not catching it all because hearing issues. Gist from many is that of supporting UCU staff but needing discussion >>
>>BREAKING! Sheffield delegate reports back from discussion w Unite that the bit of B19 that was deleted has allayed concerns+they won't walk out when that is heard. However Unite mtg continuing in another room on (we think) issues with other motions that have been highlighted >>
>> Some delegates remaining in Congress room are trying to work out a statement to send to the Unite meeting (I think - as ever there is a mega caveat around my ability to hear properly in this context, hyperacusis&tinnitus are working against me) >>
>> ALSO: when reconvene for session, can't tweet about it, b/c private session. Think we're 'ok' during this unprecedented interlude b/c Congress suspended+motions on web. Trying to wrap brains around everything is difficult, hopefully won't be ejected for trying to explain.
>>BREAKING! Report from @Rachellaracohen who's spoken to the Chair: recognise Congress suspended for over 30 mins now but asks we give some more time as resolution may be near. Chair sympathetic to extending Congress biz at end day to make room for motions we're not hearing now>>
>>We've now heard that discussion in the other room with Unite is about all the motions their branch is concerned about. If you're looking these up we u/s them to be M7, 10, 11 (we u/s B19 now ok, no challenge was made re CBC ruling B18 off agenda). Some ppl in room/some out >>
>> The agenda version we had printed is here: ucu.org.uk/circ/html/UCU8… augmented by 3rd CBC report containing additional late motions ucu.org.uk/circ/html/UCU8… #UCU2018
So B19 (visible in first link pg 97) was contentious but we u/s now ok with deletion of bit about paid officials. We u/s discussion continuing about Congress motions 7/10/11 in that first link (pg 10+11). #UCU2018
Also for anyone confused by acronyms: CBC = Congress Business Committee. It's their job to check motions fit with rules/remit of each session, so they produce a number of reports running up to Congress (more than one owing to provision for late motions, incoming info, etc) >>
>> So they present a report at the start, and anyone who wants to appeal to have a motion ruled out of order (as B19 + others were) does this at that point - the start of Congress. Delegates vote on whether to order those motions back onto agenda.
Chair back in rm to update us+ask for bit more time to continue negotiations (agreed). Elane Heffernan now reading a statement to floor that it's proposed we sent to room Unite are meeting in, asking to hear their concerns + that we find way fwd that allows delegate discussion >>
>>Some confusion about what status this bit has as it's not "in session" - but we have agreed in it to have an extra half hour for those discussions between Unite + officers + (think I have this right) movers of the motions under contention.
Clearly we could all do with better understanding own standing orders + rules + relationships between staff union and our union members work. And I say this as someone on their ~7(?!)th Congress. May I take a mo to recommend @Rachellaracohen's #USSBriefs23 medium.com/ussbriefs/ucus…
Chair of #UCU2018 is back to read a statement from staff Unite branch before we resume (private) session. Not sure if statement private or not yet...
Unite statement: staff willing to return+have reached amicable agreement w movers B19+M7 (resolved problematic bits). No such agreement on M10+11; Unite have serious concerns over those + reserve position to withdraw in order to have another union mtg when we get to them #UCU2018
#UCU2018 now back in Private Session
please unroll

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Vicky Blake UCU @zenscara@mastodon.social

Vicky Blake UCU @zenscara@mastodon.social Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @zenscara

Jun 1, 2018
30 min suspension of #UCU18 is up. National Head of Democratic Services (staff member) has come back (not elected President) to tell us staff not willing to come back in yet: we've been told Congress cannot continue. Bedlam now as ppl work out if absent chair can be challenged >>
Being argued rules allow for #UCU2018 Congress2continue in these circs but mics are off. Impossible to hear properly. Also being proposed can't have proper Congress now, so could have a discussion about what's going on instead. Counterargument "Go Congress or go home" 🤦🏻‍♀️
Staff working at venue have confirmed mics can't be turned on as Unite walkout means the ppl they've been working with aren't wiling to return. Delegates attempting human mic. Discussing continuing #UCU2018 Congress vs discussion way fwd noting democratic issue + quorum (150)
Read 21 tweets
Jun 1, 2018
Disco nice now fretting about #ucu2018 tmw. Anticipate we'll kick off with trade dispute issue. If we "can't" debate motions ruled onto agenda by CBC that Congress decided already it wants to debate b/c walkout, that's bad. If can't get through countless other motions also bad.>>
>>Also bad: being in trade dispute at all, esp as TU. There *MUST* be a way through that doesn't necessitate even more polarisation + even more (frequently wrong) insinuations about this or that grouping/faction/party that or this person/motion might be linked to+what might mean
NEC didn't have consensus today+while factional lines traceable, does *not* fully account4this. I'm in neither + voted against it, tho unhappy. Discussion too rushed/non-nuanced. Didn't get to speak at NEC, v frustrating. Worry about effect of tiredness fraying tempers tmw too:-/
Read 5 tweets
May 31, 2018
Here is pic of UCU/Unite JNC (Joint Negotiating Committee) statement that's been given out to #ucu2018 delegates to look at before tmw. NEC majority voted for it. I didn't. I'm not in a faction. I recognise Unite's concerns about due process but also NEC duty to uphold democracy>
See also this chunk of thread for other thoughts I have about the mess we are in at #UCU2018:
See also this attempt I made at thinking through likely happenings tomorrow at #UCU2018:
Read 9 tweets
May 31, 2018
If anyone is seeking the UCU rules to pore over - they're here: ucu.org.uk/ucurules (NB regions and branches also have rules agreed locally based on model rules agreed at previous congresses) #UCU2018
(To pre-empt confusion re bits on student members: if you = student working in UCU-able work (eg teaching) you qualify for free full membership under PG membership offer. If a student not working in UCU bargaining remit = 'student member' (also free but not full voting member.)
Want to read Standing Orders for the conduct of Congress and Sector Conferences? They're here: ucu.org.uk/media/9399/Sta… #UCU2018
Read 7 tweets
Mar 28, 2018
HEC: 10 mins to read paper containing recommendations given to us after Branch Delegates Meeting + 1 hour discussion. 6 Motions submitted by members of HEC, including mine on #ReviseandResubmit. Paper passed + Chair judged 5 motions to fall+1 (setting valuation end date) remitted
I do not think the paper that was put forward (which recommended a consultation with members) needed to be incompatible with all 5 motions that fell, especially the one I argued for on #ReviseandResubmit b/c I believe there was time to include R+R in the process. Chair disagreed.
Here's the #ReviseandResubmit motion I proposed to HEC. I moved it arguing it seemed clear from observing Branch Delegates mtg that a *huge* no of members were asking for some form of R+R & not to discuss would have been a dereliction of our duty to represent members.
Read 24 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(