Next up it’s @JohnCleese being interviewed by @peterjukes about why he’s decided to leave the country, the state of the Press, and “I was a national institution until last Friday and apparently I’m now a legend”... #BylineFest
@JohnCleese@peterjukes Cleese starts talking about his daughter, when his phone rings and it’s her... he takes it for a laugh... she invites him to go with her tomorrow to the Fawlty Towers dining experience as a joke, and he agrees... (!) #BylineFest
@JohnCleese@peterjukes ... he gets back to the subject of how he came to live in the US first time he left the Uk, was to be close to his daughter there who had addiction issues. The added benefit was he was only a medium celebrity there, so was ignored by Press... #BylineFest
@JohnCleese@peterjukes ... Cleese says British Press has become far worse over years. It used to be they’d do an interview, interested in what you had to say. Now the editor has given them an ‘angle’ and they have to just get quotes to go with that, and don’t care about anything else... #BylineFest
@JohnCleese@peterjukes …now so much of any paper is a reflection of the personality cult of the editor, particularly ‘that lunatic Dacre’. Cleese has heard from people work with Dacre who talk about his alarming and unstable behaviour - but that never gets reported of course…
@JohnCleese@peterjukes …he says used to be frightened of the power of Press, but actually Twitter helps because now he answers back, so when Piers Morgan says “when are you going to be funny Cleese it’s been a long time”, he could reply “when are you going to be talented Piers, it’s been a lifetime”
@JohnCleese@peterjukes …Cleese talks about filming recently with Minnie Driver. she was called by paper on Friday saying they were going to publish ‘compromising photos’ of her with an ex. She had been called recently by an ex wanting to have lunch and talk, maybe he’d agreed to help paper(?)…
@JohnCleese@peterjukes …Driver couldn’t imagine what the photos might be, they’d just had lunch… it wrecked her life for a few days, but then turned out to just be a few bad photos that had been cropped to suggest they’d been closer than the original photos show. Etc… #BylineFest
@JohnCleese@peterjukes …Cleese is angry that the press can have that power to ruin her life over nothing.
Peter says a friend of his had a similar experience, a tabloid had photoshopped out his wedding ring to make it look like he’d taken it off when meeting a female friend…
@JohnCleese@peterjukes … Cleese said he started off being a Conservative because his parents were, bit by time he got to Cambridge he realised he was more aligned with the Labour Party, then filled with solid intellectuals. Then he supported thatcher as he felt power with Unions needed rebalancing…
@JohnCleese@peterjukes …but then Thatcher went way too far… he ended up with the Lib Dems, in a large part because he believes Proportional Representation - “vital because it keeps extremists in the margins”, but the right wing Press is against it.
@JohnCleese@peterjukes “Rupert Murdoch is fundamentally the most evil man on the planet” Cleese says. And a key part of him moving abroad is to be where Murdoch doesn’t have power or influence.
He says it was demeaning that the first thing Blair did on being elected was meeting Murdoch… #BylineFest
@JohnCleese@peterjukes Peter says John also does a show called “there is no hope” and asks if that’s true?
Yes, Cleese, says - he doesn’t mean just here and now, he means ever. We keep thinking there was some rosy time in the past we can go back to, but when? Boer war, World Wars, vietnam? #BylineFest
Cleese worked with a psychologist called David Dunning who looked into people’s ability to assess their own skill and knowledge. Found you need to be expert to know you’re expert. If you’re no good you have absolutely no ability to understand you’re no good…
…however he found that people who were no good had a much higher self esteem.
And this, Cleese says, is the situation we find ourselves in with current politics.
Trump is the embodiment of self esteem over ability…
…he says Ivanka marrying Trump is proof that there are some jobs that only an immigrant will do.
He talks about how Trump has made comedians life impossible - meeting Kim Kardashian to talk about prison reform - how do you get ahead of that? #BylineFest
Cleese is asked if he could change one thing about the UK what would it be… he refers to psychological studies into confirmatory bias… and the awful thing about Brexit was the nature of the debate - such fixes points of view… #BylineFest
…and the trouble with the British press is they are all so pompously and indignantly self-righteous, while at the same time not being very clever.
He reads the press while abroad, eg New York Times, and realises just how bad British press is in comparison…
…Cleese rounds off by saying things do seem hopeless, but have always been that way. Those in power are there because they want power, and will do what it takes to keep power, not to do good things….
Here’s a thread of my live-tweets of the smart and funny @JohnCleese on stage at @BylineFest …
(Now he’s left the stage a woman has come to join her husband who watched the talk in the row behind me and asked “so is he still funny?”
“Yes,” he said, “he is.” 😂)
Anyone who works at the Home Office, in any role: at some point, just saying you were only doing your job and following orders is going to no longer be an acceptable defence. Stop enabling these wrongs, and stand up for what is right, before it is too late
History shows us there will be a public enquiry into the hostile environment policy, and these kinds of actions. It may be in 10 years or so, but it will happen. Do you really want to be waiting to be summoned to account for what you did or didn’t do? What you saw and heard?
Picture yourself walking into the court past the press (who are by now of course ‘shocked’ by what is emerging about the HO), your evidence televised live and recorded for the history books.
“I honestly didn’t know it meant they’d stop a 6 year old from being with his mother”
Next up at the @BylineFest is @GaryLineker, someone who has chosen to use his position and celebrity to engage positively in public discourse and faced the wrath of the Press. He’s being interviewed by @thelisamaxwell #BylineFest
First up, how does he respond to people who criticise him using his social media platform to share his views and discuss politics. People who tell him to shut up and stick to football.
He says, I’d say they’re probably right, for all the grief it gives me... #BylineFest
... but in reality, why should I have less opportunity to talk about what I think than the people who raise that criticism. I have these views on political and humanitarian issues and it’s part of who I am, and I don’t just want to be boring like sportspeople who plug their book
He says politicians are talking about an outcome of this being taxing tech companies and using the money to fund journalism...
But this raises the question of what journalism is, in terms of who should get the money.
The government tends to define it as ‘The Press’. So they’re talking about taking money from Google and giving it to the Daily Mail. That’s not going to improve journalism.
The discussion is started by @BrianCathcart a journalist turned academic. He says that the media has always liked to create monsters. It helps to sell papers to stoke a fear of ‘other’.
Next @richpeppiatt a former tabloid journalist says that essentially your job as a journo at a tabloid is to deliver the story you are told. He tells of one colleague who said she didn’t want to do Muslim-bashing stories, so the editor gave her more every day for weeks.
Carole talks about the resistance of the big SV companies to any real transparency or accountability. One of her Guardian colleagues ran a story about Facebook data a long while ago, but Facebook wouldn’t respond, when Carole started with story got the same brick wall...
She says it was only when @chrisinsilico came out as a whistleblower with hard evidence for the public to see that Facebook finally addressed the problem. They have no interest in public scrutiny until there’s a threat of bad PR.
Damian is chair of House of Commons Select Committee for culture Media and also sport, which conducted investigation into ‘fake news’ which followed evidential trail that broadened the remit... #BylineFest
That investigation ended up looking into Brexit and the Cambridge Analytica law breaking, and produced a comprehensive and extensive report.
Damian starts by speaking a little about his work with the enquiry...
He says that what he started looking at was content hosted by tech companies that was intended to mislead. It wasn’t just fun or silly stuff like jokes about Trump, it was completely false stuff like the bodies of white women being found with ‘black lives matter’ carved in flesh