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Sep 24, 2018 7 tweets 2 min read Read on X
This was always going to be the issue with another referendum: fundamental disagreement about explicit and implicit purpose of the exercise

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Part of success of #PeoplesVote agt was saying that it was about democracy/legitimacy of the outcome

Fine, but subtext of reopening #EUref was always going to be there

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Thus two different things:

- getting buy-in to terms of WA/PD
- getting revocation back on the table

Two rather different audiences, and requiring two different sets of Qs in vote, so unavoidable unwinding

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NB both things are legitimate exercises, but it's not practical to pretend they're the same thing (not least in defending against critics)

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If this doesn't get resolved then largely doesn't matter whether LAB decide to support 'it', because 'it' won't be clear

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(of course, could argue that's why LAB leadership might go for a version of 'it': to soak up all those who imprint their own desires onto 'it', much as was seen in #GE17)

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Generally though, still much road to travel on unpacking purpose of a second vote, let alone making it actually happen

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Oct 9, 2018
While I kick my heels for a meeting, let's think about Brexit and inevitability:

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Let's start off by noting that I'm not a big one for inevitability, in any political situation

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It's a throwing up of the hands and submitting to forces beyond our control: 'there's nothing to be done'

Personally, I think there's always something to be done

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Oct 8, 2018
So, what to make of today?

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Over the weekend, lots of +ve optics and warm words, to get mvt from the conference-season slump

But lots of reining in during the day

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Partly, it's sensible expectation mgt: one might have had the impression that suddenly everything was hunky-dory and the work of a moment

3/
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Oct 5, 2018
Possibly more for me than for you, let's try to pull this week together a bit:

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Let's start with the EU side

Having largely kept heads down during conference season, yesterday's Tusk/Varadkar presser demonstrated that EU is keeping the pressure on

2/
The tension seems to be between COM/EUCO and IE, as @pmdfoster explained well yesterday: IE making conciliatory noises, central EU bodies pushing EU integrity line



3/
Read 17 tweets
Oct 4, 2018
Let's just work through this one, given the attention it's getting
By taking the CON rebels' terminology, Tusk is making a point

But what point?
As we know from the infamous Barnier Steps, the EU offer is conditioned on UK red lines as much as anything

Read 8 tweets
Oct 4, 2018
Interesting to see how it's just as UK debate sits down for a bit on Brexit, to recover from conference season, negotiations w EU step up
If past fortnight has been about domestic management, then coming fortnight will be about UK working w EU to find ways to get mvt on WA/PD
Because of that hiatus after Salzburg, there's now v.little time left to achieve mvt in time for Oct #EUCO, hence the rush now
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Oct 3, 2018
So, the CON party conference and Brexit:

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Back in Sept, there was much talk about this being a crunch point in the UK debate, as May would come under fire for Chequers and there would be scope for changes/realignments/whatever

2/
Certainly that first bit has happened, with numerous op-eds over the weekend and assorted fringe events (inc. yesterday's Johnson speech)

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