Thread by @TomStark913

Now, conceder this…

Those that oppose water boarding do so arguing it is torture. Further arguing that information extracted by torture is unreliable. When torture is applied the subject with say anything to stop it is the basic logic presented.
newsweek.com/2016/05/20/sci…

Before moving to the next point… water boarding is *SIMULATED* drowning (emphasis added)

If we are to stipulate water boarding being ‘torture’, pouring water on someone’s face, what else qualifies?

🤔 Humm...

What about having millions of dollars in legal fees imposed upon you and your freedom taken?
All predicated on issues examined and dismissed in the past but is now being used to ‘pressure’ into ‘cooperation’.

Obviously this is steering to Paul Manafort (@paulmanafort) like most of the country, I never heard of him prior to his coming on the Trump campaign.

I quickly formed the opinion I didn’t care for him. Came off sleazy IMO. His associate Roger Stone is another one!
I was pleased when the campaign jettisoned Mr. Manafort. #truestory

Regardless, what is being done to him is a disgrace. An absolute disgrace! Ironically enough, for all the Nazi hyperbole tossed around; the closest to experiencing gestapo tactics is the ordeal of Paul Manafort.
thehill.com/homenews/admin…

Never short on irony, the very same people that gleefully support a US citizen subjected to economic and legal torture to “get him to *flip on Trump” (*very presumptuous alone) harshly condemned torture against enemy combatants to extract valuable Intel.
nationalinterest.org/feature/no-dou…

Applying pressure to flip on trump could be considered gaining Intel, correct?

Yes it is.

How would that be different than Intel gained from waterboarding? How would any “cooperation” be reliable?

What would you rather have done to you?
Have your life’s accumulated wealth taken from you and be tossed into solitary with the potential of dying in prison; or have water poured on your face?

Be honest!

What is worse?? seems obvious to me. If the crimes Manafort faces were so serious 🤔 why wait for nearly a decade to prosecute? His sleaziness withstanding, the prevailing presumption of guilt is ill advised IMO.

This is a fair comparison… all the talk of “pressure him to turn on Trump” talk got me to thinking… aren’t these the same people jumping up and down about applying pressure to cooperate using enhanced interrogation techniques. Yes, yes it is.
foreignpolicy.com/2007/10/30/ace…

Not only is this permissible in the same people's minds, euphoric pleasure is disturbingly extracted from this whole process as it unfolds.
chicagotribune.com/news/nationwor…

Keeping consistent in Inconsistency, the enthusiastic pleasure in seeing enhanced prosecutorial techniques being aggressively applied upon Paul Manafort should be most unsettling to all freedom loving Americans.

I have no idea of his ultimate guilt or innocence for the crimes he’s currently charged with.
I recall a time when presumption of innocence was big with the people...

I do, also, know the peanut gallery is elated with the harsh, torturous, treatment of an American citizen and advocates special protections to enemy combatants... 😕
#justSaying 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸