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“They [leave voters] trusted their vote would count, their voices heard.”

Let’s examine this justification for arguing that a #FinalSayForAll on the WIthdrawal Agreement would be a democratic ‘betrayal’ 1/
Has a) their vote counted and b) their voice been heard? 2/
The marginal leave vote has lead to a total overturn of normal UK Politics, fundamentally challenged the constitution, and led the entire machinery of Government to be almost entirely focussed on Brexit for more than 2 years 3/
Art50 has been triggered, Billions of £s have been spent, Whitehall reorganised, and negotiations with EU27 entered into. 4/
The entirety of UK Foreign and trade policy has be refocused, to the detriment of every other concern, on Brexit and its consequences 5/
UKGov has ignored every single concern of businesses, economists, lawyers, devolved governments, and allies and international partners in its pursuit of Brexit 6/
UKGov has also systematically ignored those who voted leave, EU27 Citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU27 in favour of attempting to implement the wishes of Leave voters 7/
So, has their vote counted? Yes, it already has, with largely unfortunate consequences for the UK. 8/
Have they been listened to? Well, yes, apart from:
- Those that voted for a soft EEA type Brexit
- Those that voted for a Brexit that would make them better off
- Those that voted for Brexit to make the UK stronger internally and internationally 9/
- Those that didn’t vote for Brexit at any cost, such as No Deal.
- Those that voted as a protest at austerity
- Those that voted Leave in the hope of more money and political attention for their depressed nation, region or town 10/
So who does that leave? The small proportion of people who voted to leave the EU at any cost, including their neighbours’ friends and families’ jobs. They have been listened to. 11/
So a) the votes of leave voters have already counted, but b) only a small section of Leave voters, and a tiny minority of the electorate have had their voices heard. 12/
Betrayal? Not listening then gaslighting about ‘betrayal’ rather than asking if this is what people wanted, or what they still want, is not democracy. Ruining people’s lives for political reasons is the betrayal here. 13/13
P.S. that’s all aside from the fact that the argument that a it is undemocratic for a democracy to change its democratic will is utterly ludicrous, of course.
*Meant voted Remain, not leave*

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Now imagine a govt telling them they are winners & in the right, and that the people they are abusing are the losers & wrong.
Now imagine a population where few people care enough to speak up. That would rather not stick their head above the parapet. That is just glad it’s not them getting the abuse, and will stay silent as long as that’s the case.
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How reassured would Parliament be by May telling them that the disagreements are not fundamental and she believes they can be agreed?
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