If we vote for anything except for Corbyn's Labour we're Tories, apparently.

I think; No. In fact I think the reason we've got austerity, Brexit, and nearly ten years of political decay is, to some extent, the fault of the very idiots who say this. Let me explain.
Just over a decade ago the UK had a centrist pro-EU and popular leader in Tony Blair. Anyone remember the guy?

Here he is being "strong and stable" in the face of Farage.

Of course he wasn't perfect. He was Labour leader, yet rich people hadn't been ground into dust. Of course welfare, social service, NHS, police, and other forms of public service spending were ramped up, but still, he didn't eradicate the capitalist pig-dogs. He did all this...
There was also Iraq. A war he got Britain into which toppled the lovely and cuddly Saddam Hussein. And after the war there were several inquiries which found no evidence of shenanigans on Blair's part, but who needs proof when it's Blair, he's a war criminal right?
So he had to go. The puritan wing of the Labour party ditched him and replaced a popular and charismatic man with a sullen and tetchy official, before running him right into the maw of Cameron - a man doing his best to imitate Blair.
Well done. Electoral walloping inevitably followed. Can't do this shit again with Brown, oh no, Labour needed someone different.

What about this David Miliband guy?

"The Blairite! Gather your pitchforks! Gather your torches! Any who were touched by the Blair must be cast out!"
So the Labour party ended up running Wallace sans Gromit up against the Tories, and the result was inevitable as it was horrific.

As a result of this stupid decision the UK took a party which had subjected the country to 5 years of austerity and returned it to parliament with a majority. In fact it was Cameron's belief that the Libs would prevent his Ref promise from being fulfilled that let him make it.
If you are a Corbyn supporter you need to understand something - there is no majority in the UK for what Corbyn is promising. There never has been. The only Labour leader win an election since the 1960s is Tony Blair, so if you don't count him as "Labour" then what does that say?
No, it isn't because people "just don't understand". It isn't because they've not heard the arguments. There aren't enough people visiting foodbanks to swing a national vote and nobody votes on account of other people using foodbanks - facts you need to deal with.
If you keep giving Labour these uncharismatic, sullen, crotchety, weak, and unbending ideological purists you're going to continue to give the UK a Tory government.

If your ideological purity is more important to you than actually being able to do something - fine.
Don't blame everyone else for the lack of political success of Labour and don't blame #FBPE or the Libs or people who won't vote for Corbyn. Newsflash kids: people are entitled vote how they please.

Either find a better (popular) candidate or live with the inevitable failure.

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Sep 10, 2018
So I made this thread the other day on the perilous state of the UK and the behaviour of certain high-profile figures (Rees-Mogg, Farage) towards EU27 citizens living in the UK.

A few people said "Don't be so dramatic". So how bad is it really?


In 2016 a vote was held which was subject to foreign interference by a hostile foreign power.

I refer of course to the 2016 US presidential election.

Putin's candidate won. But the "victors" could protest they won all they liked. They could use any slogan they wanted....
...the US legal system swing into action.

Now, less than two years after that election, at least two people have gone to prison, several people are cooperating with the FBI, there have been guilty pleas, and at least 36 people indicted.

And it's not even over yet.
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Sep 7, 2018
Can I have the attention of people who voted for #Brexit, liberal Leavers, Lexiteers, and people with concerns about national sovereignty.

Please, stop supporting this now. This entire thing has gone too far. Please read this thread, I'm begging you.
In the past few days we've had two very prominent Brexit advocates come out with absolute poison concerning EU nationals living in the UK. First there was

Then @Jacob_Rees_Mogg comes out with this.

Make no mistake, these men are now openly advocating ethnic cleansing. If the UK were actually at war with the EU, these threats would be considered war crimes.
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Aug 20, 2018
To my #FBPE friends, in the event of a #Peoplesvote, please let's not rerun the last referendum campaign and end up with #Brexit again.

We love Europe, we shouldn't be half-heartedly defending it, we should be enthusiastically promoting it.

"It's not perfect but we're better in than out."

"Hardworking EU immigrants are essential to our country."

"Inside the EU we can veto laws and things we don't like, outside we can't."

"We can negotiate hard to get what we want in Europe, outside we can't."

"It's not perfect but it's bloody good."

"It gives us the freedom to work, learn, love & live in an entire continent."

"EU courts give us an extra option to hold our government to account, giving us more control over our own lives."

"The EU are our friends and allies."
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Aug 17, 2018
No, that caller represents the majority.

What singles him out is the fact he's honest and isn't afraid to look as stupid as he is.
Most people you meet, most who suddenly have a revelation about the single market or the facts on immigration, they're just nodding. It's what people do. Nod, avoid an argument, and go about their day. Those who'll actually make their case (Leave or Remain) are a rarity.
This is what terrifies me about this whole "People's vote" business. If you're deeply buried in the data and information then it's easy to see that Leaving is going to be a disaster.

If you're not, a few things cost a bit more and that's all. Until it happens it's a non-event.
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Jul 9, 2018
The first calling point of the UK's remainers immediately after Davis's resignation will not be Brussels, it will be Berlin, to have a party.
(1/3) Post #DavisResignation a Berlin-Remain party would include blue flags and "Ode to Joy", and exchanges of a lot of high-fiving and cheering.
(2/3) Similar parties would be held in other key EU nations with Brits living in them.
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Jul 8, 2018
New tactic from the Corbyn crowd that I'm sure many of you have noticed - pro-Europe is anti-poor. The principle thrust is that if you believe that commerce, trade, and business can actually be a force for good you're not "true left". This reveals a lot about Corbynism.
They're the vanguard of a revolution. They're going to rip it all down and start again, presumably with everyone wearing a boiler suit.

Corbyn represents an open declaration of war on pursuit of profitable business as well as commerce and internationalism.
Modern socialism looks to provide a baseline comfortable standard of living for all citizens, as well as equality of opportunity. It doesn't actively hate those who do well for themselves. Look to Scandinavia for examples.

So this isn't socialism, it's bubble-economy communism.
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